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  • lotsofspace
    12-10 04:30 PM
    I completely understand the frustration expressed by logiclife.

    We either fail to appreciate or choose to ignore the fact that not every one is in the same situation when it comes to GC. For some, it is THE THING. For some it is just Nice to Have and some don't care. If it comes as a by product of being here so be it. Some of more desperate than others ...
    Most people around here are educated and know what they are doing. I believe that was their decision and they have every right to make that.

    1) I have a friend of mine, he is gainfully employed for his skills and his wife needs to be in this place for next 5 years. So he does not bother as long as his company applies for 10 to 13 year H1 extension (Which they did). Never visits IV, does not really care what happens around here.... I don't blame him.

    2) Another friend of mine joined at a junior level and can't wait to get out of here with AC21. Now that he has MBA, wants to move up with AC21 (know, it is not allowed now). I told this person about our omnibus and he contributed.

    and other people fall all over the spectrum of interest from apathy to can't live without it.


    If I were in logiclife's situation I probably would react the same way, but I am NOT the leader of the org :) :)

    I doubt who frequent here would have felt bad about the logiclife's comments, because it was just logic life being logiclife. :)

    At the same time I don't think calling some one coward persuaded any one to contribute monetarily , If they have not contributed so far or decided not to. It sure would have released some of the frustration of some active members :)


    My Original Peaceful question again:

    Does battering members without knowing a real cause and passing judgements and making snide remarks help this movement in any way?

    Anyone ?

    I know there may be a number of people here who don't care about participation. But I also know they are outnumbered by sensible/mature members.

    Occasionally administrators here start an emotional post, which is taken highly positively by active followers but not general population. Then there begins a war, Lines are drawn with elephants/horses on both sides.

    This place is a complete disaster when it comes to PR.
    One Solution - Close this place and stop aggravating people.

    Real Solution - Do what is right forge ahead with defined agenda, don't make people ashamed or left out or make snide remarks as leaders/followers or activists.

    Keeping a movement alive needs strong and open minded leaders. I think there are plenty of those leaders at immigrationvoice, Logiclife may or may not be one of them, i don't know (never met him or talked to him, neither have the desire), You don't have to make people join the movement, movement is when people follow with their hearts.

    Since I am back in "red" after one Logical question on Logiclife's post in three months, I will go back to my exile, and let activists/followers rule this movement.

    Peace again..








    It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.

    We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.

    Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !

    Agreed. But I am not surprised that oldmonk got reds. :(




    For all those who want to make it pay site, I guess the core must have thought about it already and make it one if that makes sense.




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  • nrakkati
    03-20 08:36 PM
    you never worked for X and has been working w/o break with #2 ... u said, I believe.

    Write to USCIS simple explanation and show a proof such as HR letter stating your presence on active payroll continusly for all the term and run it through attorney, if you have. Else put together logically framed chronologically ordered history. Attach W2's for the years and demonstrate un-broken timeline.

    If their is nothing to hid or falsify, ... don't worry about anything. Good news is your case is active. People here ( no offense to anyone) will split hairs trying to answer simple issue. Keep it simple and truthfull and nothing adverse will happen.




    Yes. Your assumption
    "you never worked for X and has been working w/o break with #2 ... u said, I believe"
    is correct.

    Only thing that I want to point out is - Employer X sponsored my H1B (i do not know it is new H1 or transferred), but never moved from current Employer. Maintained valid status with current employer.

    When it comes to immigration stuff, I would not do any 'wrong doing' intentionally, not even as a last option.

    Not sure if I crossed the line here (obviously unknowingly) by having H1B with 'employer x' , but I was told it's all legal.

    Thanks for your input.




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  • needhelp!
    11-15 01:57 PM
    Thank you for that info. I was not visiting the forums regularly then, and the only time I saw it was when IV core was already supporting it and encouraging everyone to do it. I have seen many great ideas on the forums.

    Flower campaign wasnt started by iv (atleast not by the seniors), it slowly gathered momentum on its own and produced results. After seeing this bulletin I ve lost hope in all this lobbying and stuff. We need publicity and more of it. Fasting for a day if organized by iv could bring more results.




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  • dsairam
    08-17 01:30 PM
    I saw lot of posts above saying good things about them however my experience with them has been bad. I am assumng this is Fragomen, Del Rey, Bernsen & Loewy, LLP we are talking about.

    There have been a couple things in the past but the most frustrating one was that even though I sent them all my papers etc. by Jun 20th (so that they can file it on July 2nd) they did not file my case until Aug 08. They are my corporate lawyers so I don't have any choice. Also, they asked us not to contact regarding status during this period as they were really busy. While not responding to status queries was understandable, they still took more than a month to file cases. I confirmed with a lot of my colleagues who were in the same boat and were equally frustrated with noncommunication and taking so long to file the cases. They also were not maintaining any apparent first come first serve queue because there were several folks who got their filings done much sooner than others who had sent complete paperworks way before them.

    Based on my experience, I wouldn't recommend them.



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  • garybanz
    05-21 03:29 PM
    Sent a $100 check to the TX chapter towards lobby day expenses.

    Go IV Go




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  • rpatel
    07-19 12:16 PM
    Yes, I used to say like this five years back when I had time and age in my hand. I assume you are in early or mid 20's. I will put it differently for you.

    Assume there is a big pond which starts from 1 feet and gradually increases up to 100 feet. People with one year work experience steps 0.5 feet. There are life jackets(GC) floating around the pool and whoever is lucky is picking it up. There are guys like me who are already in 5th-6th feet deep without finding the lifejacket, but we are sure if we go further, may be 3-4 feet more we WILL find it. There are guys who are lucky to find a life jacket at 1,2,3 feet also and happily float to the shore passing us. The fifth feet guy is practically seeing how the 6th and 7th feet guys are struggling. May be they are seeing some one in 8 feet to 10 feet. Now a big Tsunami (retrogression) comes and drags all the jackets 20 feet down further. These guys are dejected and some of these guys even pull their spouse/kids in one hand when they float/swim.

    Dont forget, it takes one year to step 0.5 feet. Every year the pond management drops a fixed number of jackets. These guys keeps their hope alive based on the above fact. But these guys are seeing some kids passing in motorboat(LC Substitution) paying that guy 10K and getting a life jacket. Hmm pain, but even if I had a chance I would have also done it.

    Now comes your saying. When the deepest s...t guys talks about their fate down the line and how to take their family safe ashore, a guy at 0.5/1 feet shouts saying "Dont give up, it is like deciding to take a sanyas because you are tired of dealing with social issues".

    If you are in 5+ feet, I take your statment. Otherwise, you will not understand what I am trying to say until you reach 5+ feet without finding a life jacket and also pulling your family in one hand and seeing your seniors struggling more in 8+ feet. :)

    NOTE: BTW, no offense. I thought to express what I am saying in different way. I understand what you meant. Cheers.

    I am in my late 20's and am going to finish my 7th year next month...you decide how many feet of water I am in..:rolleyes: Meanwhile I totally understand your argument that the situation is the most frustrating for people who have been here the longest. I'd say sharpen you swimming skills and then it wouldn't matter how deep the water is or how tall you are....I's say stick with it and endure hardship if you value the end result (GC ofcourse). Even if you decide to go back...whatever your age/experience be...never forget its never too late..Gandhi was 46 years old when he returned to India from SA after spending 22 years there..Still wasn't too late for him to start a revolution now... or was it ?:)

    May be you might also want to change your handle...GCby3000 doesn't sound that optimistic



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  • snathan
    03-27 03:13 PM
    Dear Sir,
    Not convincing. 2006 was when Retrogression started. And it was declared HUGE only in 2007,8,9,10. Just because some Tom or D has forcasted that therez gonna be huge retrogression, we dont base our GC plans on that. Correct..

    If everyone were to go with your logic, then I guess EB2 qualified guys must wait for .. well how many years, u tell us.. to apply in .. EB1 ".. And what shoudl EB3 guys do..

    The point is, lets focus our energies on the main problem which all of us face, and not show any disgust on any one category. I know how it feels if someone is coming in front of me in my line.. But how can we stop them.
    Lets bring attention to releasing those wasted visas, quota problems etc..
    If equal spillover happens from EB1 to rest of categories, EB2 will affected immediatley.

    Its personal choice if and when they want to start the GC process if there is an opporunity. I also didnt start my GC even though my first employer wanted to start the GC for me in 2005 and I refused for whatever stupid reasons...which I am regreting now




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  • walking_dude
    10-04 11:18 AM
    10/20 is fine with me. Another IV member vs116 has agreed to attend it along with me.

    I would prefer - Troy, Rochester, Royal Oak , Sterling Heights, Madison Heights, Utica etc. as long as it's agreeable to the majority. I think we should go by majority of participants.


    the problem will be meeting venues and times if we join illinois. we do have ton of H1 people here who are on same boat. Lets try to rally them in.....
    I am calling all my friends....
    Please keep posting here. Lets target the date 10-20-07. We will meet on that day. We will go over the game plan and decide what comes next.

    I live in Sterling heights. Please post where you are at, and once we know all, we will decide a centerpoint for everyone to meet.



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  • jjava100
    06-03 11:25 AM
    Response I got from the Senator.....


    Thank you for contacting me to share your views about the proposed framework for comprehensive immigration reform. It is an honor to serve as your Senator, and I appreciate hearing from you.



    Like you, I understand that our country's foundation has been strengthened by our proud tradition of immigration, and I believe that people who work hard, contribute to our economy, and respect the law should always be welcome in the United States. At the same time, I also believe our current immigration system is broken. We need strong legislation to restore the rule of law and strengthen the security of our borders and the integrity of our workforce.



    As you know, a group of Senators, including Majority Leader Reid, released their REPAIR Proposal (Real Enforcement with Practical Alternatives for Immigration Reform). This proposal outlines a framework of policy recommendations aimed at restoring security at our borders, cracking down on employers hiring illegal immigrants through an employment verification system, and establishing a strictly regulated system for earning legal permanent residency. To ensure enforcement, the framework also calls for increased border patrol personnel, resources, and technology, and lays out a policy for administering temporary work and student visas.



    The framework for comprehensive immigration reform has not yet been introduced as legislation in the Senate. Please know that I will continue to monitor the status of this proposed framework, and I will keep your views in mind when the Senate takes up immigration reform.



    Thank you, again, for sharing your thoughts with me. I hope you will continue to keep me informed about the issues that matter most to you.





    All my best,

    Jeff Merkley
    United States Senator




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  • probe
    01-12 01:06 PM
    Count me in I can contribute 500$



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  • somegchuh
    07-19 03:35 PM
    Is it really that bad in canada? I think if you are looking for jobs (no.s & salary) comparable to US that won't happen. But I think the general quailty of life in canada is pretty comparable to US.

    Same school system/corporate env/law enforcement/etc ..

    I don't think any place will compare to living in US as far as # of available jobs/salary is concerned. You may find more jobs in India but the general quality of life in India is still sub-par. If it were really at par with west, nobody would be trying to immigrate here.

    I am sorry to tell you that by going to Canada, in the end you may be better off going back home. I lived there as a PR and I have many Canadian citizens that are tired of the lame system back in the Socialist Canada.

    As a general note, I think if you have already been in US 8-9 years you have already made enough investment and sacrifice. Its worth waiting for some more time. But set your own timeframe, don't wait endlessly. Trust me this can go on, this might be a well thought poicy decision to slow down processing at BEC's and introduce retrogression. This will trigger a lot of ppl like us to leave and they can get the work done cheaper (off course, there is always more ppl ready to fill my shoes).




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  • Daisy
    02-27 05:02 PM
    I sent my letter to the President, IV and my representative Lamar Smith. Thanks IV for initiating this drive!



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  • vchenna
    07-26 02:56 PM
    GURU's:)

    I m Employee of company "A" have a valid H1-B till 2008.

    I came to company "B" through company "A" acquisition. I left company "B" in March 2007 and joined some other company( "C" ) on H1 B.

    Question is- I have a project now and wanted to get back as a employee of "B".

    Will company "A"' H1-B be valid? Or do we have to do a H1 B transfer ?

    Please suggest :mad:
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  • jayleno
    04-29 03:06 PM
    Hi Guys...

    Here is 100 more from me through Paypal. I was excited to learn that there is another bill in the works that supports converting the 55,000 visas to advanced degree holders. That will free up a lot of visas in the EB-2 category and also some in the EB-3 category.



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  • dixie
    09-28 01:06 AM
    We do not have sufficient expertise to answer such specific queries .. Your company's immigration lawyer should be the best person to answer this. You could also try posing your query to an attorney during our conference calls.

    In any case, a good employer would prepare for the worst case eventuality - that is assume that an audit notice is sent. If your company and its lawyer have been scrupulous about all the information they furnished during the PERM app there should be little trouble responding to it. In case they fail to satisfy USCIS, your company will get blacklisted and will be barred from filing PERM applications for some length of time (not sure what that is).I do not know of any direct consequences for the beneficiary himself.

    My company went through a 10% workforce reduction company-wide just when my PERM application was ready to be filed. Although nobody from my group has been affected, 2 people with the same job title from a different group in the same office were affected. Their job descriptions are entirely different. I have about a year and a half before my H1B expires. I would appreciate anybody answering the following questions I have:

    1. In Form 9089, should the answer to Item 26 be 'No' since nobody in my group or area of expertise was affected?

    2. If the answer to Item 26 should be 'Yes', is it sufficient to notify and consider the people laid off? I am confident that they will not qualify for the position. How long should this 'notification and interview' period typically be?

    3. I have heard that my company can be sent an audit notice. In such a case, is it sufficent to justify that the area of expertise is different. What is the success rate for this?

    4. If the audit response is rejected, what happens then? I have been told that the employee will have to return to his home country immediately and cannot refile his PERM application.




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  • go_guy123
    02-10 06:02 PM
    And there is an important lesson to be learned from the health industry lobby. They just did not say they want CIR or skil and then went back when both cir and skil failed. They started chipping away at individual items like 50000 visas for Schedule A last year and 90000 this year from unused\recaptured visas. We should also be asking for our individual line item, 485 measure. This is how a war is won, one battle at a time. It is unrealistic to have an "all or nothing" attitude that people opposing 485 measure have. If the health industry lobby had such "all or nothing" attitude they would not have got the 50000 visas last year nor would they have been trying to get the 90000 this year. Hope we learn from them.


    H1B was misused and abused so much by the industry that the local
    population has become hostile to the whole concept of foreign engineers/IT workers. Companies like Infosys, TCS hire 100% IT staff from India etc.
    (saying that no US citizen/GC available...thats like lying in broad daylight)

    Nurses came on Green cards and were free to change jobs etc. so
    they affected the local job market to a far lesser degree so the opposition
    is less.



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  • MDix
    02-14 10:20 AM
    Please PM me the Email you sent to CISOmbudsman.
    Don't let others to HIJACK this thread they have developed habit.
    We gotta follow this to the end.

    Thank's
    MDix


    i had sent an email to c.. requesting allowing to file for AOS..as a mode of temporary relief...they replied..saying thanks for the input...

    I think we must pursue this for now... since any meaning reforms are atleast couples of months away.. this relief can save lots of EB ppl during uncertain times.

    inputs welcome..




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  • qasleuth
    03-05 09:25 AM
    Count me in for the contribution...

    me too




    Jaime
    07-07 11:15 PM
    I think you will have some benefit out of this bill, albeit, indirectly. This Bill will exempt a lot of folks with advanced degrees from US and non-US universities. All advanced degree holders from US univs. (STEM and non-STEM) will be exempt. So, a person with an MBA flus a 4 year bachelors from a US univ. will be exempt. Also, folks with non-US STEM advanced degrees who have been working in the US in a related field for 3 or more years will be exempt as well. The family members of such folks are exempt as well. Consequently a lot of folks currently waiting in the pipeline may no longer be counted against the quota, thus reducing the clog in the pipeline. ANother benefit out of this bill is that it increases the quota from 140K to 290K. There fore, you will definitely see some positive movement in priority dates for people in your and other similar situations (this is the indirect benefit I was referring to). It is very hard to say at this point how much the positive movement would me. It will all depend on how many people will be exempt from the quota.

    Just to clarify. You say that "a person with an MBA plus a 4 year bachelors from a US univ. will be exempt" but you don't really need the 4 year bachelors from a US university. The MBA from a U.S. university is enough to be exempt, even if your bachelor degree is from outside the U.S.




    chanduv23
    06-12 03:22 PM
    great job! I'm glad you let them know how you felt.

    The reason why in today's world we always see Indians facing such problems right from Australia, here in the US, Gulf countries, European nations is because the mindset of these people is that "They deserve what they get they need not get better".

    Why are our issues not getting resolved with retrogression??"We deserve what we get".

    Remember what Mahatma Gandhi said to fellow Indians "To get independence from British, we must prove worthy of it"

    How worthy are we? We are great scientists, researchers, doctors - tell me what not - highly educated, competitive ....
    But we lack international PR skills, collectively we cannot achieve anything other than fighting among ourselves, we do not cooperate, we do not take rules seriously, we take things for granted, we compare among ourselves, .... list goes on.

    Educated people must raise voice against any form of injustice. But can we all do it?



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