Amma
12-10 03:13 PM
Friends,
I was one among the people not attented the Plano meeting.I had to attend a very important family meet on that day. But, I didn't inform Niloufer about this.I am Sorry,Niloufer.
I also spread the message of Plano meeting by pasting flyers in Irving India stores. I was ready to attend alongwith my family. But, for the last minute unavoidable family meet. I became helpless.
Today,I convinced my friend EJSR to contribute $100 towards Omnibus fund drive.
I am sorry.
Keep going IV
I was one among the people not attented the Plano meeting.I had to attend a very important family meet on that day. But, I didn't inform Niloufer about this.I am Sorry,Niloufer.
I also spread the message of Plano meeting by pasting flyers in Irving India stores. I was ready to attend alongwith my family. But, for the last minute unavoidable family meet. I became helpless.
Today,I convinced my friend EJSR to contribute $100 towards Omnibus fund drive.
I am sorry.
Keep going IV
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pkv
05-06 02:43 PM
I was told that people on H4 are not eligible for SSN, and if I want she (the person on counter in ssa office) can issue me a denial letter for that. It sounded useless to me that time, so I didn't bother to get that letter.
This idea sounds good to me, I'll go to SSA office again and try to apply. Offcourse they will say that they can't accept application. So I'll get a denial letter and I can appeal against that.
They cannot refuse to accept your application. Fill in the forms and send them in. They can deny your application and then you can appeal. If they refuse to accept the application, you have two options. You can contact your congressman and complain. You can file a discrimination complaint with the SSA ombudsman. Here is the discrimination form.
https://ssa.gov/online/ssa-437.pdf
Finally, if you believe you have been denied your rights because you are an immigrant, you can contact your local ACLU and ask them to represent your case. As a last resort, you can file a lawsuit at the federal district court. The filing fee for this is $350. However, I hope we are all doing this to exercise our rights rather than for the money. At least that is my motivation.
In my case, the first time I called, the person hung up on me. But I did not give up. I got them to accept the application and it is currently under reconsideration. I was also able to get a response from the Regional Office. So far they have not addressed any of the points I made in the original case as described in the OP. I expect they will continue to ignore their own laws and regulations, until I appeal this to an administrative judge, who will make a legal ruling.
BTW: All this costs you nothing but your time.
This idea sounds good to me, I'll go to SSA office again and try to apply. Offcourse they will say that they can't accept application. So I'll get a denial letter and I can appeal against that.
They cannot refuse to accept your application. Fill in the forms and send them in. They can deny your application and then you can appeal. If they refuse to accept the application, you have two options. You can contact your congressman and complain. You can file a discrimination complaint with the SSA ombudsman. Here is the discrimination form.
https://ssa.gov/online/ssa-437.pdf
Finally, if you believe you have been denied your rights because you are an immigrant, you can contact your local ACLU and ask them to represent your case. As a last resort, you can file a lawsuit at the federal district court. The filing fee for this is $350. However, I hope we are all doing this to exercise our rights rather than for the money. At least that is my motivation.
In my case, the first time I called, the person hung up on me. But I did not give up. I got them to accept the application and it is currently under reconsideration. I was also able to get a response from the Regional Office. So far they have not addressed any of the points I made in the original case as described in the OP. I expect they will continue to ignore their own laws and regulations, until I appeal this to an administrative judge, who will make a legal ruling.
BTW: All this costs you nothing but your time.

Macaca
09-15 09:05 PM
To feel today
what one felt yesterday
isn't to feel -
it's to remember today what was felt yesterday,
to be today's living corpse of
what yesterday was lived and lost
Fernando Pessoa, The Book of Disquiet
what one felt yesterday
isn't to feel -
it's to remember today what was felt yesterday,
to be today's living corpse of
what yesterday was lived and lost
Fernando Pessoa, The Book of Disquiet
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GCNirvana007
08-21 09:08 AM
Hi All,
I applied for my daughter's PIO card and sent all the documents as mentioned in the instructions sheet of the embassy website along with the self addressed stamped envelope. I heard from my other friends that even after you send everything in order, the embassy people would call and say that they did not receive the self addressed stamped envelop. It happened to three of my friends. I am the 4th one. They called today to tell that I did not send the envelope.
The funny part that happened with my friends is that, they all sent $20 and the package came in the very envelope they sent in the first place, that the embassy said they didn't receive.
Did anybody of you also had the same kind of experience or similar incident. If so, please do share.
Why are they doing like that? Do they really think we would do like that, trying to save on an self addressed envelope? It really bothered me for the fact that the lady from the consulate was utterly rude when talking. I am amazed how in the world, The Indian Government is still hiring such people? Of more then a billion population, is that the best person the government of India could find for that customer service post? Its a shame and I am ashamed that such dic*heads working and representing India?
Coming back to the issue...she said sternly, send $20.00 or send envelope stamped otherwise the application would not be processed.
Folks, please let me know where I can complain about this careless attitude of this monster woman. What steps can I take to make sure they don't do that again? I live in TN and I can't fly/drive to Washington DC. The questions is not about the money, but the way they are operating without any ethics is deplorable.
Hoping to hear all your valuable suggestions.
Thank you.
Glad we are trying to take actions. Any challenge we face today, say Embassy, USCIS etc we let it happen. Unless we raise our voice, they feel what they are doing is right. We have to stand up together.
USCIS will be a much better organization, if we all stood up. Amazing part, we are the backbone for this economy and we just are dormant. When i say we, it includes me.
Just think about it, what have we done so far against USCIS or for our lives for injustice other than venting.
I applied for my daughter's PIO card and sent all the documents as mentioned in the instructions sheet of the embassy website along with the self addressed stamped envelope. I heard from my other friends that even after you send everything in order, the embassy people would call and say that they did not receive the self addressed stamped envelop. It happened to three of my friends. I am the 4th one. They called today to tell that I did not send the envelope.
The funny part that happened with my friends is that, they all sent $20 and the package came in the very envelope they sent in the first place, that the embassy said they didn't receive.
Did anybody of you also had the same kind of experience or similar incident. If so, please do share.
Why are they doing like that? Do they really think we would do like that, trying to save on an self addressed envelope? It really bothered me for the fact that the lady from the consulate was utterly rude when talking. I am amazed how in the world, The Indian Government is still hiring such people? Of more then a billion population, is that the best person the government of India could find for that customer service post? Its a shame and I am ashamed that such dic*heads working and representing India?
Coming back to the issue...she said sternly, send $20.00 or send envelope stamped otherwise the application would not be processed.
Folks, please let me know where I can complain about this careless attitude of this monster woman. What steps can I take to make sure they don't do that again? I live in TN and I can't fly/drive to Washington DC. The questions is not about the money, but the way they are operating without any ethics is deplorable.
Hoping to hear all your valuable suggestions.
Thank you.
Glad we are trying to take actions. Any challenge we face today, say Embassy, USCIS etc we let it happen. Unless we raise our voice, they feel what they are doing is right. We have to stand up together.
USCIS will be a much better organization, if we all stood up. Amazing part, we are the backbone for this economy and we just are dormant. When i say we, it includes me.
Just think about it, what have we done so far against USCIS or for our lives for injustice other than venting.
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Goodintentions
03-27 05:52 PM
Kindly note that my suggestion to look for other opportunities is ONLY directed at youngsters in their early and mid 30s..not for people like you are me who are in this mess! i left UK and came here ...that was a GREAT and WISE decision!!!! ha ha ha !!! (Before leaving , I told my friends there ---> I am going for a great future...I am sure my friends are laughing at me now!!!) If I had stayed there I would have become a citizen of UK with the whole of EU open for employment and Visa free travel to the whole world..
I do not want my younger brothers and sisters from India to suffer like me..I have NOTHING to gain in this process!
We have to stay and fight UNITEDLY or go back to India...choice is yourrs and mine !!!!
I do not want my younger brothers and sisters from India to suffer like me..I have NOTHING to gain in this process!
We have to stay and fight UNITEDLY or go back to India...choice is yourrs and mine !!!!
Alabaman
06-29 10:10 PM
...not yet time to rejoice.
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santb1975
04-26 08:27 PM
I hope so too. Let us put our best work in to this funding drive and hope for the best
$ 100 on 4/29 - Paypal Receipt ID: 09882903RK086923P
Thanks and hope this bill passes for the benefit of everyone.
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Thanks and hope this bill passes for the benefit of everyone.
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axp817
01-14 04:42 PM
Mohican,
Good luck with the MTR, I hope your attorneys are able to file it ASAP, and your 485 gets reopened even faster.
I switched employers about a year or so after my 485 had been filed (140 approved) and my employer has informed me that they are going to have to revoke my 140 soon.
The attorneys at the new employer's filed AC21, G28, etc., but looking at everyone's experience, I too am expecting to get a denial or at best, a NOID/RFE once the 140 is revoked.
I don't have answers to your questions unfortunately, but I would think that even if the 140 was used for someone else, you shouldn't need a new one, since you switched employers after 180 days of 140 approval, and for those 180 days the 140 was not revoked/reused. Of course, an attorney has to confirm this.
Please do keep us posted on how things go, how long the MTR takes, etc.
In the meantime, do you have to go on unpaid leave, because of your EAD becoming invalid or do you have backup status such as the H-1B?
Thanks very much and good luck,
Good luck with the MTR, I hope your attorneys are able to file it ASAP, and your 485 gets reopened even faster.
I switched employers about a year or so after my 485 had been filed (140 approved) and my employer has informed me that they are going to have to revoke my 140 soon.
The attorneys at the new employer's filed AC21, G28, etc., but looking at everyone's experience, I too am expecting to get a denial or at best, a NOID/RFE once the 140 is revoked.
I don't have answers to your questions unfortunately, but I would think that even if the 140 was used for someone else, you shouldn't need a new one, since you switched employers after 180 days of 140 approval, and for those 180 days the 140 was not revoked/reused. Of course, an attorney has to confirm this.
Please do keep us posted on how things go, how long the MTR takes, etc.
In the meantime, do you have to go on unpaid leave, because of your EAD becoming invalid or do you have backup status such as the H-1B?
Thanks very much and good luck,
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dallasdude
03-05 01:10 PM
Nice job fellas. God bless all of you for getting involved in this. You can expect a contribution from me as well.
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GCapplicant
03-14 11:34 AM
I agree with Bharat Premi...
Even according to my lawyer there are not much cases in 2004 /2005 EB3 I...
Guess many have chosen EB2 as they were eligible by that time .I dont understand why EB3 I is being projected so negatively.
Many have already transferred EB3 to EB2.
2001/2002 may be there are still duplicate open applications which USCIS have to sort out .
Lets hope for the best...But seeing Bharat Premi responses...builds hope.
Thanks
Even according to my lawyer there are not much cases in 2004 /2005 EB3 I...
Guess many have chosen EB2 as they were eligible by that time .I dont understand why EB3 I is being projected so negatively.
Many have already transferred EB3 to EB2.
2001/2002 may be there are still duplicate open applications which USCIS have to sort out .
Lets hope for the best...But seeing Bharat Premi responses...builds hope.
Thanks
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ganguteli
04-10 03:21 PM
Chanakya,
You are totally naked on this thread. People have stripped you and opened your cupboard. I cannot imagine how shameless some people are.
You are totally naked on this thread. People have stripped you and opened your cupboard. I cannot imagine how shameless some people are.
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chanduv23
09-24 11:22 PM
yes I 140 has been approved in Feb o7.
Let me wait for actual denial letter.
It seems that is the best option at this point for me.
- Thanks
Looks like USCIS is sending more denial letters on AC21 cases these days, a lot of VOs may not have been trained on AC21.
I took infopass this week to find out status of my case (AC21 responded to NOID and case reopened and lot of soft LUDs) - the VO was trying to be judgemental instead of looking at computer and answer my question. She said "If you change job and 140 is revoked, there is no way your 485 will get approved" and when I insisted her to look at computer and let me know status, after some nagging, she looked and told me case is pending and NC cleared and I will receive a decision sometime but not very soon.
Believe me, a lot of VOs do not know AC21 stuff.
Let me wait for actual denial letter.
It seems that is the best option at this point for me.
- Thanks
Looks like USCIS is sending more denial letters on AC21 cases these days, a lot of VOs may not have been trained on AC21.
I took infopass this week to find out status of my case (AC21 responded to NOID and case reopened and lot of soft LUDs) - the VO was trying to be judgemental instead of looking at computer and answer my question. She said "If you change job and 140 is revoked, there is no way your 485 will get approved" and when I insisted her to look at computer and let me know status, after some nagging, she looked and told me case is pending and NC cleared and I will receive a decision sometime but not very soon.
Believe me, a lot of VOs do not know AC21 stuff.
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04-28 10:02 AM
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vandanaverdia
09-10 03:02 PM
Guys... get off & come to DC & join the rally!!! This is your chance to make a difference!!!
SITTING ON THE FENCE HAS HELPED NOBODY!!!
SITTING ON THE FENCE HAS HELPED NOBODY!!!
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ghost
07-03 08:18 PM
If I'm not mistaken the bill has the provision for H1-B number increase from 65K to 115K. I'm assuming that this will be effective starting October 2007.
There is no incentive for the congress to act quickly (in August 2006) on this during an election year. They can simply wait out on this until december. Also the below mentioned corporations can wait until October 2007. They do some early planning, unlike a number of tech staffing companies.
So please do not be over-optimistic, only to be disappointed later. In your words, wait and watch!
:D This bill will be passed for sure before August. You and me are not behind this. Microsoft, CISCO and Oralce are the ones indirectly calling the shots. Anti immigrant groups can just talk and shout. Money($$$) will show it in action. Wait and Watch.
There is no incentive for the congress to act quickly (in August 2006) on this during an election year. They can simply wait out on this until december. Also the below mentioned corporations can wait until October 2007. They do some early planning, unlike a number of tech staffing companies.
So please do not be over-optimistic, only to be disappointed later. In your words, wait and watch!
:D This bill will be passed for sure before August. You and me are not behind this. Microsoft, CISCO and Oralce are the ones indirectly calling the shots. Anti immigrant groups can just talk and shout. Money($$$) will show it in action. Wait and Watch.
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whattodo
05-09 12:25 PM
Even I was interested in similar scenario.
1. What happens when changing employers when I-140 and I-485 pending for less than 180 days?
2. From my understanding, the process needs to restart. However, do I have to do something to withdraw pending I-485.
3. Will it be termed as denied I-485 and create problems if I apply new I-485 with new employer?
Any response will be appreciated.
I have a pending I-140 since July 2006. Today i lost my sponsor employer and don't know what to do. Can I switch my pending I-140 to another employer? What can i do NOT to lose status? I still have a valid H1B till Augist 2008 but I have travelled on my Advance Parole. Does that mean that my H1B is terminated? Please advise. Thank you.
1. What happens when changing employers when I-140 and I-485 pending for less than 180 days?
2. From my understanding, the process needs to restart. However, do I have to do something to withdraw pending I-485.
3. Will it be termed as denied I-485 and create problems if I apply new I-485 with new employer?
Any response will be appreciated.
I have a pending I-140 since July 2006. Today i lost my sponsor employer and don't know what to do. Can I switch my pending I-140 to another employer? What can i do NOT to lose status? I still have a valid H1B till Augist 2008 but I have travelled on my Advance Parole. Does that mean that my H1B is terminated? Please advise. Thank you.
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alien2006
06-14 09:16 AM
This is certainly good news for many. However the skeptic in me is feeling very uneasy. Why did they suddenly open the flood gates? Did they purposely create a backlog and then increase the fees (double the fees) just in time? Are we going to face other issues down the line after applying for 485?
I guess for now, we will just celebrate and try to get our 485 applications in before July 31st. After that it is a wait and watch situation.
Congratulations to all who got through this first hurdle.
I guess for now, we will just celebrate and try to get our 485 applications in before July 31st. After that it is a wait and watch situation.
Congratulations to all who got through this first hurdle.
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MerciesOfInjustices
02-11 11:15 PM
Thanks, Jay for setting the record straight for the nth time! Well said!
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hopefull
06-08 07:59 PM
Mandal ka Kamanadal will do. What this means is that we are back to square one. All the effort, money and energy was spent on making sure that we didnt get screwed any further. Meaning, it hasnt moved us a step ahead but just helped us to retain our positions without going back.
END RESULT - NULL....hhhmmm would I be stereotyping if thought too much into it???
Would appreciate the input of all..just my two cents
END RESULT - NULL....hhhmmm would I be stereotyping if thought too much into it???
Would appreciate the input of all..just my two cents
paskal
09-22 02:44 AM
Rally agenda - from the start, the D.C rally has not seemed need-based rally. San Jose rally and flower campaign were need-based. They were needed because USCIS ditched all July hopefuls. We were aghast and speech-less. So there was that burning-sensation in our tummies that took us to streets and greet the USCIS chief with bloody flowers!!
i guess you need durbin grassley to return before the "burning feeling" is back. never fear, it's just waiting....btw were you in san jose? when have you been on the streets? who is "us"?
D.C rally has been strategic one. Somewhere in the beginning of the game, we pushed wrong buttons in marketing/selling the strategy or signing up people for the D.C rally. I remember very very few messages on the rally forums and tons and 100s of messages on "July 2" forum.
and whose fault is that? are the core members and other leaders of iv babysitters?
we should now be responsible for spending our remaining life's time explaining why it's important to do something about the mess we are in? oh wait! we did! and copped a ton of abuse for it. go back and look at your posts and everyone else's on the July 2 thread....who has to put the posts on rally threads and not on July 2 threads? who exactly are you blaming here?
and who is "we"? what role have you played?
All senior fellows and the 1000+ members who made it to rally - have you surprised why there is NO 5000 - 10000 attendance.
the registration was actually 2,000. and no we are not surprised. the sheer apathy of those that would benefit from this action and the obsession with receipt notices made it quite clear we were never going too exceed this number. we know that their are many like you here that want us to come to your house with a begging bowl so you can associate handles with real people without lifting a little finger yourself.
thankfully there are 2,000 others that know they are doing this for themselves .
Some more pointers to my thoughts -
> I can't associate all IV handles with real people easily.
and? would you like my ss no? those who came to DC have solved this problem. others solved it long ago by getting involved and taking responsibility and sharing burden. it's yours to deal with now.
> I don't know who is what (like in organizations we have people associated with certain responsibilities).
there is a core team, and there are iv- chapter leaders. join your state chapter if you can drag yourself of the tracking threads and meet the leaders. i got to know real people because i pm'd them then e mailed them and called them, set up a state chapter and met them...
nobody is going to put food in your mouth just because it is open. we are volunteers who give up a lot to keep iv going. we too have commitments at home and work. and they are as important as yours. the only difference is that our sense of self importance is a little less...
> Has anyone ever asked whether we should mention our association with IV in 485 application? And the repercussions?
this is hilarious. aman kapoor the visible founder and leader got his green card just recently. and he is not the only prominent or visible leader to have got it. what does green card processing have to do with exercising your rights to petition government? did you read what siskind and murthy wrote? would they ask their clients to jeopardize their futures? for the record, the 485 asks what organization you are a member of- and i am a member of iv- and i wrote that.
it's a legal, registered non profit org. what's to be ashamed/petrified of?
this seems to be your real problem, the rest is just a cover up.
there are clearly many people with very genuine reasons for not being in DC. and that will always happen with any action. but we are 23,000+ strong. and you are benefiting from our actions per your own words. yet you lurk on tracking threads and then wonder why there are more posts there then on rally threads? wow...rocket science for the highly skilled!
franklin! i begin to think this thread is pointless. those that have genuine reasons do...people like mhb, susie, sunny and madhuri will participate when they can. others like rajesh (can't associate the name with a real person btw ) and inskrish revel in being armchair critics. they will only be genuine participants when it comes from inside them. meanwhile we have to suffer their petty complaints and feel like we owe them something. (!!!!!)
rajesh was in the DC area!!!!! and he chose to see other "attractions" on tuesday. you see it was not "need based". hilarious...but gives me heartburn. let's please close the thread.
i guess you need durbin grassley to return before the "burning feeling" is back. never fear, it's just waiting....btw were you in san jose? when have you been on the streets? who is "us"?
D.C rally has been strategic one. Somewhere in the beginning of the game, we pushed wrong buttons in marketing/selling the strategy or signing up people for the D.C rally. I remember very very few messages on the rally forums and tons and 100s of messages on "July 2" forum.
and whose fault is that? are the core members and other leaders of iv babysitters?
we should now be responsible for spending our remaining life's time explaining why it's important to do something about the mess we are in? oh wait! we did! and copped a ton of abuse for it. go back and look at your posts and everyone else's on the July 2 thread....who has to put the posts on rally threads and not on July 2 threads? who exactly are you blaming here?
and who is "we"? what role have you played?
All senior fellows and the 1000+ members who made it to rally - have you surprised why there is NO 5000 - 10000 attendance.
the registration was actually 2,000. and no we are not surprised. the sheer apathy of those that would benefit from this action and the obsession with receipt notices made it quite clear we were never going too exceed this number. we know that their are many like you here that want us to come to your house with a begging bowl so you can associate handles with real people without lifting a little finger yourself.
thankfully there are 2,000 others that know they are doing this for themselves .
Some more pointers to my thoughts -
> I can't associate all IV handles with real people easily.
and? would you like my ss no? those who came to DC have solved this problem. others solved it long ago by getting involved and taking responsibility and sharing burden. it's yours to deal with now.
> I don't know who is what (like in organizations we have people associated with certain responsibilities).
there is a core team, and there are iv- chapter leaders. join your state chapter if you can drag yourself of the tracking threads and meet the leaders. i got to know real people because i pm'd them then e mailed them and called them, set up a state chapter and met them...
nobody is going to put food in your mouth just because it is open. we are volunteers who give up a lot to keep iv going. we too have commitments at home and work. and they are as important as yours. the only difference is that our sense of self importance is a little less...
> Has anyone ever asked whether we should mention our association with IV in 485 application? And the repercussions?
this is hilarious. aman kapoor the visible founder and leader got his green card just recently. and he is not the only prominent or visible leader to have got it. what does green card processing have to do with exercising your rights to petition government? did you read what siskind and murthy wrote? would they ask their clients to jeopardize their futures? for the record, the 485 asks what organization you are a member of- and i am a member of iv- and i wrote that.
it's a legal, registered non profit org. what's to be ashamed/petrified of?
this seems to be your real problem, the rest is just a cover up.
there are clearly many people with very genuine reasons for not being in DC. and that will always happen with any action. but we are 23,000+ strong. and you are benefiting from our actions per your own words. yet you lurk on tracking threads and then wonder why there are more posts there then on rally threads? wow...rocket science for the highly skilled!
franklin! i begin to think this thread is pointless. those that have genuine reasons do...people like mhb, susie, sunny and madhuri will participate when they can. others like rajesh (can't associate the name with a real person btw ) and inskrish revel in being armchair critics. they will only be genuine participants when it comes from inside them. meanwhile we have to suffer their petty complaints and feel like we owe them something. (!!!!!)
rajesh was in the DC area!!!!! and he chose to see other "attractions" on tuesday. you see it was not "need based". hilarious...but gives me heartburn. let's please close the thread.
eb2_immigrant
10-27 05:14 PM
Are we/employees really supposed to know all the steps involved in the approval of GC process (Perm, 140/EAD/485 etc.)?
I work for one of the fortune 100 companies, to my surprise, none of my European colleagues is aware of all the GC process. All they do is just provide documents what ever the HR department asks for. They don�t pay from their pocket for GC (ideally correct). None of them has clue about priority date etc�.they get communicated by the HR department about their GC process.
So putting your case in perspective. I am assuming that the HR department would just hand over the GC to the employee. Neither the HR (I think) nor the employee (definitely) would worry about the PD being current.
Ideally if a law firm is point of contact for a petition, what would they do? Would they go back to USCIS and tell them that the GC is approved by mistake? I don�t think so but some one can confirm if they had experience otherwise.
I work for one of the fortune 100 companies, to my surprise, none of my European colleagues is aware of all the GC process. All they do is just provide documents what ever the HR department asks for. They don�t pay from their pocket for GC (ideally correct). None of them has clue about priority date etc�.they get communicated by the HR department about their GC process.
So putting your case in perspective. I am assuming that the HR department would just hand over the GC to the employee. Neither the HR (I think) nor the employee (definitely) would worry about the PD being current.
Ideally if a law firm is point of contact for a petition, what would they do? Would they go back to USCIS and tell them that the GC is approved by mistake? I don�t think so but some one can confirm if they had experience otherwise.
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