vdlrao
07-15 04:36 PM
Here are all the LC approvals for India in the last seven years.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
Based on the labor approvals, I am expecting EB2 will touch 2007 in the next 3 to 5 visa bulletins.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
Based on the labor approvals, I am expecting EB2 will touch 2007 in the next 3 to 5 visa bulletins.
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AK_GC
06-27 12:37 AM
Got my approval but my spouse hasn't yet received one.
We e-filed it together through the same account. My LIN was constantly getting updated with the status but not my husband. I also received the notification when my application was approved. I got my approval in the mail today too (about 1 month turnaround time) .But we haven't received any notification on my husband's case. And the online status hasn't changed either. Did anybody else face this? Not sure how to follow-up. Any pointers?
We e-filed it together through the same account. My LIN was constantly getting updated with the status but not my husband. I also received the notification when my application was approved. I got my approval in the mail today too (about 1 month turnaround time) .But we haven't received any notification on my husband's case. And the online status hasn't changed either. Did anybody else face this? Not sure how to follow-up. Any pointers?
H1Girl
07-09 04:07 PM
I don't think i should necessarily agree with this statement. The shortage of manpower is w.r.t US Citizens with specialized skills...hence they recruit specilized people on H1/L1 categories which are known as specialized skilled employees. They won't bother about others unless they hold H/L.
Moreover, they have to think about unemployment issue caused by foreigners. Hence, I think they can't allow anyone work just like that...
I can see the most wierd issue with immigration law is that GC Holders can't bring their spouses on any dependent visa just like H4. In that sense, H4 is a bit better than 'foreign spouse of a GC holder'.
... One the one hand they will keep on syaing that we have shortage of manpower and on the other hand they try to restrict. ...
Moreover, they have to think about unemployment issue caused by foreigners. Hence, I think they can't allow anyone work just like that...
I can see the most wierd issue with immigration law is that GC Holders can't bring their spouses on any dependent visa just like H4. In that sense, H4 is a bit better than 'foreign spouse of a GC holder'.
... One the one hand they will keep on syaing that we have shortage of manpower and on the other hand they try to restrict. ...
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factoryman
02-09 07:04 PM
et tu.
So many posts, so many links have been done on this. One of the main reasons, eb3 is so backlogged is this legal and greedy snatching of unused HB3 visas from 200 to 2005.
I see point and counter-point, but no action yet.
Where did the 50K visas come from? Where will the 90K visas come from?
Are they from the total pool of 144K/year or is this an additional amount (144K + 90K) allocated for health care?
Who is included in health care? Thanks.
So many posts, so many links have been done on this. One of the main reasons, eb3 is so backlogged is this legal and greedy snatching of unused HB3 visas from 200 to 2005.
I see point and counter-point, but no action yet.
Where did the 50K visas come from? Where will the 90K visas come from?
Are they from the total pool of 144K/year or is this an additional amount (144K + 90K) allocated for health care?
Who is included in health care? Thanks.
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amsgc
08-19 03:32 PM
Thank you for the clarification.
The fact that you have come here to share your experience and give some insight tells us that you probably care (about Fragomen and its clients). Please stick around, and update your details on IV.
Thanks.
Fragomen employees are told they represent the company. The company is their client. They are a corporate law firm. There are instances when the law firm represents you, the foreign national. Usually this is when you are applying via a marriage based case, or are in the final green card process and it has reached portability. There is information that law firms cannot release to you as some information requested belongs to the client, and they must receive authorization from the client. Yes, I used to work for Fragomen, before anyone wants to assume anything. I was a paralegal and worked hard for every case that was given into my hands. I specialized in the green card process and made sure I responded to every foreign national as quickly as I can. Please understand that paralegals and legal assistants are subject to the attorneys they work for. Therefore, some questions you may ask require an attorney to respond, and the paralegal or legal assistant's delay may be in trying to get the answer you require. I know not all Fragomen offices work the same. Not all will respond to you in the same manner. Some may be worse than others. So if you are going to defame Fragomen, would you please try to specify which office you are referring to?
I have read through all the posts on this thread and I know some of you have positive experiences, while others have had very negative experiences. To those of you who have had negative experiences, I am sorry that your case went to someone who only looked at their work as a job. For me, each one of my foreign nationals were special cases, each required as much care and concern that I could give them. None of my cases were ever denied. I wish you all the best in this process. I know it is a long and, many times, frustrating process, especially with countless delays due to either the law firm, your company, or the government.
And for the person who had asked about the prevailing wage, it comes from the state employment department, not the federal government. Some offices work faster than others. When a prevailing wage comes back higher than what you are making, the law firm then has to go back to the employer to find a resolution, which can mean either an increase in the salary once you have received the green card, or confirmation that is what you will be making at that time, or a reduction in the requirements, which can sometimes take a case from EB2 to the EB3 visa category.
The fact that you have come here to share your experience and give some insight tells us that you probably care (about Fragomen and its clients). Please stick around, and update your details on IV.
Thanks.
Fragomen employees are told they represent the company. The company is their client. They are a corporate law firm. There are instances when the law firm represents you, the foreign national. Usually this is when you are applying via a marriage based case, or are in the final green card process and it has reached portability. There is information that law firms cannot release to you as some information requested belongs to the client, and they must receive authorization from the client. Yes, I used to work for Fragomen, before anyone wants to assume anything. I was a paralegal and worked hard for every case that was given into my hands. I specialized in the green card process and made sure I responded to every foreign national as quickly as I can. Please understand that paralegals and legal assistants are subject to the attorneys they work for. Therefore, some questions you may ask require an attorney to respond, and the paralegal or legal assistant's delay may be in trying to get the answer you require. I know not all Fragomen offices work the same. Not all will respond to you in the same manner. Some may be worse than others. So if you are going to defame Fragomen, would you please try to specify which office you are referring to?
I have read through all the posts on this thread and I know some of you have positive experiences, while others have had very negative experiences. To those of you who have had negative experiences, I am sorry that your case went to someone who only looked at their work as a job. For me, each one of my foreign nationals were special cases, each required as much care and concern that I could give them. None of my cases were ever denied. I wish you all the best in this process. I know it is a long and, many times, frustrating process, especially with countless delays due to either the law firm, your company, or the government.
And for the person who had asked about the prevailing wage, it comes from the state employment department, not the federal government. Some offices work faster than others. When a prevailing wage comes back higher than what you are making, the law firm then has to go back to the employer to find a resolution, which can mean either an increase in the salary once you have received the green card, or confirmation that is what you will be making at that time, or a reduction in the requirements, which can sometimes take a case from EB2 to the EB3 visa category.
gc_dega_gandhigiri
05-17 09:38 PM
Emailed.
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willwin
03-14 11:23 AM
Thanks BharatPremi!
Appreciate your response. I have couple of questions/thoughts. Your logic is based on the fact:
1. Not MANY cases left with PD before 2003
2. 2003 and 2005 most cases moved over to EB2
3. In July 2007, PD moved over to June 2003
What about cases in 2004? not many?
And, the movement (to 2005) would happen only during last quarter of the FY when numbers overflow from other categories? Or under normal movement?
First Bullshit Period: 2003 - Realization that EB3-I will be dead slow - Sub
Labor black Market flourished mainly in NY, CA and TX.
We saw a new animal "Virtual Office". Lot of ethically and
morally(Now even legally) illegitimate transfers occured
from EB3 to earl PD based EB2.
Second Bullshit Period: 2005-JAN to APRIL is a key "Bullshit period" - As in
May PERM was gonna to be released, people
fanatically started preparations to switch over to EB2
using PERM. So maximum fence hopping done in this
period and continued till 2006 mid.
Fact: In june 2007 EB3-I was already reached to June 2003 as current PD.
So logically speaking once dates for EB3-I reaches to 2005 start mark then virtually it should not take long to reach to 2006 mid mark as EB3 numbers considerably reduced and with same amount EB2-I considerably increased so EB2- I will stuck for a very long long time once it reaches to 2005 start mark and Eb3-I will be moved with jet speed. Now we may have some EB3-I with PD before June 2003, it will surely be a stock from NC stuck - That is the only entity which you can not tag a number and hence the base of inaccurate prediction.So far so good. Considering all this I believe Eb3-I at least with PD 2004-mid should become current by the end of 2008 december.Last quarter of this year will be THE quarter for EB3-I
Other thing is unpredictable and abrupt decisions by USCIS, just like what it did during this April - So all in all, I think it (EB3-I) should reach to 2005 mark by 2009 mid.
Appreciate your response. I have couple of questions/thoughts. Your logic is based on the fact:
1. Not MANY cases left with PD before 2003
2. 2003 and 2005 most cases moved over to EB2
3. In July 2007, PD moved over to June 2003
What about cases in 2004? not many?
And, the movement (to 2005) would happen only during last quarter of the FY when numbers overflow from other categories? Or under normal movement?
First Bullshit Period: 2003 - Realization that EB3-I will be dead slow - Sub
Labor black Market flourished mainly in NY, CA and TX.
We saw a new animal "Virtual Office". Lot of ethically and
morally(Now even legally) illegitimate transfers occured
from EB3 to earl PD based EB2.
Second Bullshit Period: 2005-JAN to APRIL is a key "Bullshit period" - As in
May PERM was gonna to be released, people
fanatically started preparations to switch over to EB2
using PERM. So maximum fence hopping done in this
period and continued till 2006 mid.
Fact: In june 2007 EB3-I was already reached to June 2003 as current PD.
So logically speaking once dates for EB3-I reaches to 2005 start mark then virtually it should not take long to reach to 2006 mid mark as EB3 numbers considerably reduced and with same amount EB2-I considerably increased so EB2- I will stuck for a very long long time once it reaches to 2005 start mark and Eb3-I will be moved with jet speed. Now we may have some EB3-I with PD before June 2003, it will surely be a stock from NC stuck - That is the only entity which you can not tag a number and hence the base of inaccurate prediction.So far so good. Considering all this I believe Eb3-I at least with PD 2004-mid should become current by the end of 2008 december.Last quarter of this year will be THE quarter for EB3-I
Other thing is unpredictable and abrupt decisions by USCIS, just like what it did during this April - So all in all, I think it (EB3-I) should reach to 2005 mark by 2009 mid.
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newyorker123
05-21 03:22 PM
I am new to this and I sent email couple of times and called certain people in IV list.
Most of the responses from the senator/congress members or even conversation refers undocumented immigrants, safe/secure borders etc.
What is missing in representing the EB community different to illegal immigrants ?
Most of the responses from the senator/congress members or even conversation refers undocumented immigrants, safe/secure borders etc.
What is missing in representing the EB community different to illegal immigrants ?
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diptam
06-25 05:28 PM
Yes , its Free :D Anyway - lets talk with a 3rd person (maybe USCIS) and confirm. Its Free, if you read the EAD forms its clearly written that once some one pays $340 ( not other amount) it becomes FREE for ever. I just checked the EAD forms again before writing this post - let me PASTE from EAD forms if that clear the confusion.
Renewal EAD: If this is a renewal application and you
applying under one of the following categories, a filing fee
not required:
1. (a)(8) Citizen of Micronesia, Marshall Islands, or Palau;
3. (a)(11) Deferred Enforced Departure; or
2. (a)(10) Granted Withholding of Deportation;
4. (c)(l), (c)(4), or (c)(7) Dependent of certain foreign government, international organization, or NATO personnel;
5. (c)(9) or (c)(16) adjustment applicant who filed for adjustment under the fee structure implemented July 30, 2007.
No it is NOT free from there on.
Btw I just got "screwed over" by the USCIS ;). I "missed" the June 30th deadline by 5 days. Our EADs got appoved today. If only the USCIS was as effieicient with 485s as it is with monetary screw overs :rolleyes:
Renewal EAD: If this is a renewal application and you
applying under one of the following categories, a filing fee
not required:
1. (a)(8) Citizen of Micronesia, Marshall Islands, or Palau;
3. (a)(11) Deferred Enforced Departure; or
2. (a)(10) Granted Withholding of Deportation;
4. (c)(l), (c)(4), or (c)(7) Dependent of certain foreign government, international organization, or NATO personnel;
5. (c)(9) or (c)(16) adjustment applicant who filed for adjustment under the fee structure implemented July 30, 2007.
No it is NOT free from there on.
Btw I just got "screwed over" by the USCIS ;). I "missed" the June 30th deadline by 5 days. Our EADs got appoved today. If only the USCIS was as effieicient with 485s as it is with monetary screw overs :rolleyes:
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GCNirvana007
08-21 09:08 AM
Hi All,
I applied for my daughter's PIO card and sent all the documents as mentioned in the instructions sheet of the embassy website along with the self addressed stamped envelope. I heard from my other friends that even after you send everything in order, the embassy people would call and say that they did not receive the self addressed stamped envelop. It happened to three of my friends. I am the 4th one. They called today to tell that I did not send the envelope.
The funny part that happened with my friends is that, they all sent $20 and the package came in the very envelope they sent in the first place, that the embassy said they didn't receive.
Did anybody of you also had the same kind of experience or similar incident. If so, please do share.
Why are they doing like that? Do they really think we would do like that, trying to save on an self addressed envelope? It really bothered me for the fact that the lady from the consulate was utterly rude when talking. I am amazed how in the world, The Indian Government is still hiring such people? Of more then a billion population, is that the best person the government of India could find for that customer service post? Its a shame and I am ashamed that such dic*heads working and representing India?
Coming back to the issue...she said sternly, send $20.00 or send envelope stamped otherwise the application would not be processed.
Folks, please let me know where I can complain about this careless attitude of this monster woman. What steps can I take to make sure they don't do that again? I live in TN and I can't fly/drive to Washington DC. The questions is not about the money, but the way they are operating without any ethics is deplorable.
Hoping to hear all your valuable suggestions.
Thank you.
Glad we are trying to take actions. Any challenge we face today, say Embassy, USCIS etc we let it happen. Unless we raise our voice, they feel what they are doing is right. We have to stand up together.
USCIS will be a much better organization, if we all stood up. Amazing part, we are the backbone for this economy and we just are dormant. When i say we, it includes me.
Just think about it, what have we done so far against USCIS or for our lives for injustice other than venting.
I applied for my daughter's PIO card and sent all the documents as mentioned in the instructions sheet of the embassy website along with the self addressed stamped envelope. I heard from my other friends that even after you send everything in order, the embassy people would call and say that they did not receive the self addressed stamped envelop. It happened to three of my friends. I am the 4th one. They called today to tell that I did not send the envelope.
The funny part that happened with my friends is that, they all sent $20 and the package came in the very envelope they sent in the first place, that the embassy said they didn't receive.
Did anybody of you also had the same kind of experience or similar incident. If so, please do share.
Why are they doing like that? Do they really think we would do like that, trying to save on an self addressed envelope? It really bothered me for the fact that the lady from the consulate was utterly rude when talking. I am amazed how in the world, The Indian Government is still hiring such people? Of more then a billion population, is that the best person the government of India could find for that customer service post? Its a shame and I am ashamed that such dic*heads working and representing India?
Coming back to the issue...she said sternly, send $20.00 or send envelope stamped otherwise the application would not be processed.
Folks, please let me know where I can complain about this careless attitude of this monster woman. What steps can I take to make sure they don't do that again? I live in TN and I can't fly/drive to Washington DC. The questions is not about the money, but the way they are operating without any ethics is deplorable.
Hoping to hear all your valuable suggestions.
Thank you.
Glad we are trying to take actions. Any challenge we face today, say Embassy, USCIS etc we let it happen. Unless we raise our voice, they feel what they are doing is right. We have to stand up together.
USCIS will be a much better organization, if we all stood up. Amazing part, we are the backbone for this economy and we just are dormant. When i say we, it includes me.
Just think about it, what have we done so far against USCIS or for our lives for injustice other than venting.
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bestin
10-04 08:18 PM
only 6 so far?comeon guys.seems Mi guys are all GC holders already?:D
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stuckinmuck
02-09 08:31 PM
Is there anyway we can work on reporting fraud desi consulting companies to the USCIS so the fraud EB applications can be cleaned up from the system? That may help in clearing up the backlog. Believe it or not, many fraud desi firms have sponsored people in EB-2 successfully. I have worked with many such IT 'professionals' who can't speak a word of English and hardly have any idea what's going around them. I am serious here, this should be considered and evaluated. No offence meant to anyone but those who have had a wonderful educational background and don't work for desi 'firms' ought not to worry since this doesn't target them at all. I am just tired of fellow country men/women who have diminished our country's image, especially in the IT industry and am trying to think of solutions in addition to what we already have on IV's agenda.
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gc_maine2
05-01 01:24 PM
we should not be slow
Here is my Small contribution to a LARGE BILL
Receipt ID: 5CM844923L690873H
Amount: $100
We are slow. Aren't we??:confused:
Here is my Small contribution to a LARGE BILL
Receipt ID: 5CM844923L690873H
Amount: $100
We are slow. Aren't we??:confused:
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Hinglish
03-21 02:35 PM
Simply amazing ...
have you guys lost the ability to think and read...
It is USCIS that decides the categories and it is they who say that EB1 is more skilled and valuable than other categories
Again ... like I said in my post .... It is NOT NOT individual's qualifications or Country that matters, it is the JOB descr they do that decides the EB category. IF USCIS places more value on EB1 than EB2/EB3 category jobs that is not my problem .... but thats the way it is... and that was my point .... if the value placed on the job is higher that job...
If things make you sick .... there is a fix for it .... go to a doctor ...
But truly... I do believe you are sick, inability to coherently digest a discussion and think is a serious anomaly and you should get it checked out...
What the hell do u mean?
How many people in EB2 do a different job from EB3?
Most of the people in EB2 almost do the same programmer job. I have been in this country for a long time. I have friends who have done their MS from colleges like stanford, santa barbara. I don't see a difference in their role. I have more than 10 yrs of exp. I have worked in different roles too.
For jerks like u to come and talk abt people in EB3 being unskilled, makes me sick.
Shut the f*** up
have you guys lost the ability to think and read...
It is USCIS that decides the categories and it is they who say that EB1 is more skilled and valuable than other categories
Again ... like I said in my post .... It is NOT NOT individual's qualifications or Country that matters, it is the JOB descr they do that decides the EB category. IF USCIS places more value on EB1 than EB2/EB3 category jobs that is not my problem .... but thats the way it is... and that was my point .... if the value placed on the job is higher that job...
If things make you sick .... there is a fix for it .... go to a doctor ...
But truly... I do believe you are sick, inability to coherently digest a discussion and think is a serious anomaly and you should get it checked out...
What the hell do u mean?
How many people in EB2 do a different job from EB3?
Most of the people in EB2 almost do the same programmer job. I have been in this country for a long time. I have friends who have done their MS from colleges like stanford, santa barbara. I don't see a difference in their role. I have more than 10 yrs of exp. I have worked in different roles too.
For jerks like u to come and talk abt people in EB3 being unskilled, makes me sick.
Shut the f*** up
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poojaimmg
11-01 11:06 AM
I have filed my I-140 through company A and waiting for approval but now I want to get my H1-transfer to non-profit organization(company B). Can I do my H1 transfer to company B and keep my Green card process continue with company A. Also this company B is paying less salary then company A , will this effect my I-485
Also how safe it is to transfer H1 from profit to non-profit organization. What if tommorrow I want to get H1 transfer back to profit organization.
Some people say that H1 transfer for profit organizations fall under H1 transfer cap. Is this true?
My wife is currently with Employer A on her 7th year H-1B which is valid till Sep 2009. She also has her approved labor cert and I-140 from this employer, but decided to continue on my I-485 application. The I-140 however is still valid.
She now wants to change jobs to Employer B using H1 visa transfer. I am guessing she will need to include a copy of approved I-140 with her H1B transfer application. But Employer A is not providing us a copy of the I-140 approval.
Can someone please advise what we can do in this situation? Is a copy of I-140 critical in this situation? Or just a copy of online approved status will be sufficient? Any other ideas?
Thanks!!!
Also how safe it is to transfer H1 from profit to non-profit organization. What if tommorrow I want to get H1 transfer back to profit organization.
Some people say that H1 transfer for profit organizations fall under H1 transfer cap. Is this true?
My wife is currently with Employer A on her 7th year H-1B which is valid till Sep 2009. She also has her approved labor cert and I-140 from this employer, but decided to continue on my I-485 application. The I-140 however is still valid.
She now wants to change jobs to Employer B using H1 visa transfer. I am guessing she will need to include a copy of approved I-140 with her H1B transfer application. But Employer A is not providing us a copy of the I-140 approval.
Can someone please advise what we can do in this situation? Is a copy of I-140 critical in this situation? Or just a copy of online approved status will be sufficient? Any other ideas?
Thanks!!!
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anandrajesh
09-19 05:11 PM
Well Said Logiclife... That was an eye-opener. Hopefully something positive happens because of all your hardwork.
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risker
07-20 05:40 PM
I am with you buddy, but u have to understand
1. AILF will not file such case as they dont have big numbers of people supporting it as plaintiff
2. Your reasons are justified but you forgot one thing: US govt agencies (whether it is USCIS, DOS or DOL) treat immigrants as with the principle "beggars are not choosers", so per them you as an individual and your feelings doesnt matter much
3. Try to think positively, even though everyone will file 485 now but come Oct and if your labor is approved by that time you will be much ahead of everyone and you will not loose your place in the line. I am sure u will get GC approval before most of the July filers
Stay positive, stay calm. May God bless you!!
Again, sorry to say, but you are looking for excuses. I am looking for reasons. I know there are enough people out there to support this case. It is a simple matter of people spreading the word and jumping into the bandwagon.
I don't care whether they consider us as beggers or kings or whatever. It doesn't matter to me. It is a justified case and we have to put up a fight.
So please don't give excuses. That is not what I am looking for here. We might have a 1000 excuses for not filing a case, but only one reason to file it. We want justice. This can't go unheard or unnoticed.
1. AILF will not file such case as they dont have big numbers of people supporting it as plaintiff
2. Your reasons are justified but you forgot one thing: US govt agencies (whether it is USCIS, DOS or DOL) treat immigrants as with the principle "beggars are not choosers", so per them you as an individual and your feelings doesnt matter much
3. Try to think positively, even though everyone will file 485 now but come Oct and if your labor is approved by that time you will be much ahead of everyone and you will not loose your place in the line. I am sure u will get GC approval before most of the July filers
Stay positive, stay calm. May God bless you!!
Again, sorry to say, but you are looking for excuses. I am looking for reasons. I know there are enough people out there to support this case. It is a simple matter of people spreading the word and jumping into the bandwagon.
I don't care whether they consider us as beggers or kings or whatever. It doesn't matter to me. It is a justified case and we have to put up a fight.
So please don't give excuses. That is not what I am looking for here. We might have a 1000 excuses for not filing a case, but only one reason to file it. We want justice. This can't go unheard or unnoticed.
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Lasantha
06-19 04:48 PM
See the bold text. Because the bill is yanked out, amendments are added to the bill and now it is going to be put back as a new bill.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation_2.cfm
The Senate's Second Secret Immigration Bill
by The Heritage Foundation
FYI
For weeks, Americans were told that there are only two options for dealing with the nation's illegal immigration problem: stay with the status quo or accept a "grand bargain"--a tenuous behind-closed-doors deal, first made public by The Heritage Foundation, which contained nearly 800 pages of flawed policies. In the face of overwhelming criticism from all sides, this legislation was withdrawn from the Senate.
Now, an altogether new bill (S. 1639) has been introduced by Senators Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter. It seems to incorporate the previous legislation, with some amendments. After it is read into the Senate calendar on Wednesday, the Majority Leader will be able to proceed to consider this legislation anew at any time; debate is likely to follow later this week, with a final vote very soon thereafter.
This schedule will afford lawmakers even less time for consideration and deliberation than they had before. It will deny them the various procedures long associated with America's deliberative lawmaking process--hearings, testimony, committee debate and amendments, floor debate, and the possibility of further amendments. Instead, according to reports, this legislation will proceed based on an altogether new and expedited procedure designed for the sole purpose of forcing the bill's many ill-conceived policies over legitimate minority objections.
As it has before, for the sake of open deliberation and public education, The Heritage Foundation is making this legislation publicly available to encourage widespread debate and discussion. Heritage Foundation analysts will be reading this legislation and considering its implications--as will everyone outside the confines of the narrow group that conceived it--as quickly as possible.
So if this bill is introduced as a new one with a new bill number, does that May 15th provision still stand? Or is it now gonna be June 19th ?
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/2007legislation_2.cfm
The Senate's Second Secret Immigration Bill
by The Heritage Foundation
FYI
For weeks, Americans were told that there are only two options for dealing with the nation's illegal immigration problem: stay with the status quo or accept a "grand bargain"--a tenuous behind-closed-doors deal, first made public by The Heritage Foundation, which contained nearly 800 pages of flawed policies. In the face of overwhelming criticism from all sides, this legislation was withdrawn from the Senate.
Now, an altogether new bill (S. 1639) has been introduced by Senators Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter. It seems to incorporate the previous legislation, with some amendments. After it is read into the Senate calendar on Wednesday, the Majority Leader will be able to proceed to consider this legislation anew at any time; debate is likely to follow later this week, with a final vote very soon thereafter.
This schedule will afford lawmakers even less time for consideration and deliberation than they had before. It will deny them the various procedures long associated with America's deliberative lawmaking process--hearings, testimony, committee debate and amendments, floor debate, and the possibility of further amendments. Instead, according to reports, this legislation will proceed based on an altogether new and expedited procedure designed for the sole purpose of forcing the bill's many ill-conceived policies over legitimate minority objections.
As it has before, for the sake of open deliberation and public education, The Heritage Foundation is making this legislation publicly available to encourage widespread debate and discussion. Heritage Foundation analysts will be reading this legislation and considering its implications--as will everyone outside the confines of the narrow group that conceived it--as quickly as possible.
So if this bill is introduced as a new one with a new bill number, does that May 15th provision still stand? Or is it now gonna be June 19th ?
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vamsi_poondla
09-05 12:57 PM
vamsi, go ahead and do it now, wont take long.
Done that. Spoke with Kanika, arranging for meeting my area congressman.
Done that. Spoke with Kanika, arranging for meeting my area congressman.
anilsal
11-14 09:03 PM
Major reform is "not viable in this Congress," added Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-San Jose, chairwoman of the House Judiciary subcommittee on immigration. (http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_7437469)
There is also opposition to consider piecemeal options which treat legal immigration reform separately.
I am generally a very optimistic person but not seeing whats really viable this year.
I understand that IV is looking into other angles as well. Once again not sure.
Can IV core comment about what our realistic chances are?
Please dont answer "Join your state chapters". I am already a state chapter member.
Please contact your state chapter leaders for information. :) They are always updated with the latest possibilities.
There is also opposition to consider piecemeal options which treat legal immigration reform separately.
I am generally a very optimistic person but not seeing whats really viable this year.
I understand that IV is looking into other angles as well. Once again not sure.
Can IV core comment about what our realistic chances are?
Please dont answer "Join your state chapters". I am already a state chapter member.
Please contact your state chapter leaders for information. :) They are always updated with the latest possibilities.
amitjoey
05-28 10:43 AM
Thank you VJP, Pandi, ramaonline, vineet for your contributions
Total $ 8,700
Total $ 8,700
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